us low. that's a big part of why i think the media is not willing to move off of this. he has not apologized. he has not railwaysisen to the occasion. >> i agree with van. >> what was that? >> i said all right, deacon jones. >> i was going to say i agree with van's point about bill clinton, but i think where at least he lost me in the parallel example is with the reverend wright stuff. this was something that he knew for a decade, he went to this church, as he said. you know, he was the individual who married them. that's something that barack obama did consciously for a decade, and the stuff said about the united states of america was so horrinble. even donald trump was clear this was a moment he wasn't proud of. this was a 15 second, you know, that horrible moment before the bus, you know, opened with the camera. i've known the man for seven years, and if you talk to anybody including his wife, if you want to bring up the interview from last night, said that this is not the donald trump that we know.