he was lead on, like egg on from the host to say dirty and bad stuff. >> pardon me. i didn't mean to interrupt you but that's where you were going with this, blaming billy bush and saying it was boy talk. is that what trump supporters really see here, too? >> no, they see it for exactly what it was. it is not boy talk. it wasn't locker room talk. this was a grown man in a professional situation that's running for president of the united states, and that's exactly how people see it. and for her to blame it or anyone to blame it on billy bush egging it on, i think it is a tremendous mistake because it leads the appearance that he's not actually taking responsibility for his own actions, and that's exactly what he should be doing. also, i think this interview should have been done ten days ago. >> wow. >> it could have put this thing to rest and been talking about issues that help donald trump. >> you've done this a time or two before. >> well, i think -- >> but my question, the same thing i asked to her about ivanka, what would you have