level with you, it doesn't seem right. even howard stern -- i'm nota howard stern fan. >> bababuoy. >> trump went in there and it was an entertainment program and to kind of all the sudden now it's on cnn, i just feel like this is apples and oranges so i really can't comment on it. >> van jones i saw a side eye there. >> l jui just wanted to say the reason i feel this tape has been different than everything else with donald trump is everything else he's done that's been controversial, that's gotten people upset could be put into one of three categories. it was either political conviction, he actually believes this stuff, even if it's outrageous, he could say, he's an authentic guy, or it's political calculation, trying to play to a certain base and say, maybe he's just being smart politically, or it's comedy, he's being an entertainer. this is not the first time it's not political calculation, or