i -- the boys, the way they talk when they grow up and they want to sometimes show ooemp, oeach oh, this and that, and talking about the girls. but, yeah, i was surprised, of course. >> michelle obama, who you, i know, have spoken positively of in the past, she said last week about what your husband said on that tape, she said, this was not just a lewd conversation. this wasn't just locker room banter, this was a powerful individual speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behavior and actually bragging about kissing and groping women. in terms of what he actually said on the tape, not saying he did it, but what he said, the behavior described to you, is that sexual assault? >> no, that's not sexual assault. he didn't say he did it. and i see many, many women coming to him and giving phone numbers and, you know, want to