collaborating with her in an attempt to rig the election. this is not just false, it's ludicrous and it's damaging. but you know what, his current conspiracy theory is ripped from these pages, the website of brei breitbart news. it's right there, the mainstream media are kohl lecolluding to e hillary clinton. what are the consequences of this conspiratorial talk? joining me now, senior editor at "the atlantic" and margaret with the "washington post." margaret, what do we even say? how do we prove that we are not all conspiring? >> brian, i'm not sure how you prove it. it's an absurd claim. i've spent decades in the newspaper business.