petra, let me ask you something, alexandra. what do we do with this? when you have a moment like this and you seem to have an action and a reaction to it, what do we do to make some value of this situation? >> well, i think it's good that we're talking about this and that it's up there. i think what nischelle said was huge. the fact that he didn't apologize to the person who was involved in this thing. i think that just shows to what extent he views women as somehow a different category than people. they are sort of an object. a sexy thing with legs, like a status symbol. everything donald trump says about women is like oh, a good woman is worth ten men and a bad woman's not as good as a man. just sort of this idea that there is this different category that women fall into than people. i think we have to keep pushing back and the guys in the locker room have to keep pushing back and everyone has to say, no, women are people. we're not this strange thing. we're not objects. you don't talk about people like that. >> nischelle, there was another woman involved in this, and that was the actress that they