some of what jeff is hearing. but let me expand upon that a little bit. if trump says this is ols -- as we point out the larger context of this and the pattern donald trump has dealing with women. then broaden it out further to the question of what kind of commander in chief and world leader that would make him. how would he deal with women in the military. how would he stay out of the white house, for example. so what we should expect is put it in context. and they talk about her life experiences in terms of dealing with the women issues.