fair game. i think what you're having happen here is rick santorum was basically ignored as a man who had no chance to win this. ignored by the media the entire time. suddenly nobody thinks he has a chance to win, but suddenly it's like, let's give this guy the treatment. i think some people are perhaps overdoing it and giving him the treatment like to make up for lost time. >> how would you define "the treatment"? >> it's just like -- like i think we see ourselves as the self-appointed police of this. and we're going to bring up everything bad in anybody's past. you know, like, all right, we did it to herman cain, we did it to michele bachmann, rick perry, now it's santorum's turn. it's almost like a feeding frenzy. >> or like a wake-up call if the r ref misses fouls, we call fouls. >> i think it gets overdone. >> the fact is, i've heard people talking about this incident with the santorums' baby. a lot of people think it's strange. maybe that's unfair. is it okay to talk it it? >> i think it's okay to talk about. remember, this is not the firstness?