and a kid in his class the next day said, hey, jim, how come you don't eat your peas? and he was angry. and i can't say i blame him. i get it now. i mean, it was an invasion of his privacy. and so i backed up and almost never really made any kind of personal detailed reference to my family. i felt i had a responsibility to protect. it's not that easy to have -- to have a celebrity parent can be a real pain in the neck and i realize that now more than i did than when i was there. >> there's another woman in your life who paid a great tribute to you, oprah, when she ended her long-running show. it's been an amazing year with larry king, my predecessor and regis philbin ending his long running show, oprah ending hers. let's watch a little clip from the oprah finale, which had a touching moment with you. >> that first day in 1984 all of