to encourage as many to be a part of that process and the takeoff. to be there in the landing and fall. virginia could be one of the handful of states that actually decide the general election. >> so, really, what we thought of virginia so far, frankly, in are other candidates who can't get on the ballot. is this a bigger problem, than the candidates not on the ballied in virginia? >> one of the things that test you is your organizational mobility. one thing we've learned about rick perry's campaign and newt gingrich the campaign is that they can't organize their way out of a paper bag at this point. so if they can't run a campaign, how can they run a country? that's part of the process, is putting a machine together to get you on the ballot, and they failed there. on the other point, too, i think ron made it. parties are in decline. parties have lost so much influence in power. why? guess what? there's competition. all the super pacs. >> that's what this is about? a scramble for power? >> trying to hold on.