and also gingrich who just a few weeks ago was ahead, and i don't know where he's going to end up but he seems to be going down. it is really wide open and it really depends upon who turns out. i think we're going to have a good turnout. i think people are really concerned about the direction of the country and they want a new leader. >> let me talk to you a bit about november and iowa. the president won here by 9 1/2 percentage points the last time around here. he has quite a team here. the obama folks are out pushing today about what kind of structure they have in place for november. does iowa stay red? sorry. does iowa say democratic? >> i think there's a great chance to be to beat obama, just like i beat the incumbent governor last time. people are unhappy with the direction of the country. >> but the economy is good. >> yes, but not because of him, but because of agriculture. he's divided the country. he said he would bring people together. he had the opportunity to do that in the state of the union a