so this is an issue that is dividing the country, not just by sex by by belief and by custom. >> do we believe that this is actually going to lead to other rights for women, that they'll be able to gain rights ondriving? >> well, with the women that i've toukd to, this is very clear. they feel that the right to drive is a very small thing. they still want the right to vote, they want to be able to travel freely, to open a bank account, without having to ask their husbands or male guardians. so for a lot of women this is just a first step. but as you can see with manal's example, it is a very, very difficult uphill battle just for the right to drive. >> atika shubert, thank you so much for that excellent report. as we just reported a few minutes ago, a u.s. official is telling cnn that osama bin laden considered seeking a deal with pakistan to protect al qaeda leaders and al qaeda would refrain from attacking pakistan