argument, just put out the statement because it was true. we all knew it was true. so it was pretty straightforward at that point. >> so you made clear that you were going ahead with the story with or without his confirmation. without getting into the confidential sources, did somebody or some persons come to "the los angeles times"? did somebody want this story out? >> you know, i can't speculate on why people do or say what they do or say. i mean, i think the fact that people were forthcoming in a way that they weren't when we started looking into some of these allegations as has been pointed out some years ago during the groping thing, i'm sure that's going to come up. people were forthcoming. i can't ascribe motives to them. we received information. we developed it to a point where we were comfortable. and there were two stories. "the l.a. times" broke the story -- >> do you think your ability to break the story was related to the fact that the housekeeper, show told you, had voluntarily