did you see what happened coming in any way? >> honest answer, i didn't. i didn't -- i don't want to say that i didn't see that we were going to have problems. i did. i wrote articles saying that there were going to be problems. did i think that we were going to be on the edge of -- did i think we were going to see a bank like lehman brothers go under, that aig was going to almost falter and we're going to be living in this 9%, 10% world of unemployment, and people were talking about 25% unemployment. that part is what i didn't get. >> one of the things that you're both hitting on -- i don't want to ruin the drama of the story, but i don't think people at large -- i didn't even -- i went to m.i.t., and i studied economics and so on, and i was as confused by this as i think all of us are. i don't think anybody realized -- this is one of the points of this movie and this book -- that we were living within a day away from a major international catastrophic economic melt down. my mom always talked about what it was like to live during the depression. literally, people were virtually