works over at our sister network, "in session." does it mean matter who was uncomfortable? some way it was the pilot, some say it was the passengers, does that even play into the scenario? >> i don't know if it matters who was uncomfortable, but what does matter is supreme court has found recently in february that the captain or the pilot of an aircraft has very wide discretion in determining who he will fly, who he will fly with or she, and also in determining what is safest for the aircraft and in his word, or her word is final. and so in that sense, these pilots are saying that they are concerned that this was a safety concern and that they make those judgment calls. >> is that enough? it sounds like the pilot or the captain has the ultimate power no matter what. they can say they don't like the way your shoes are tied and kick