this organization has a lot of forces, a lot of rivalries, different ideologies, different agendas. bin laden was able to unify al qaeda by launches this jihad against the united states. >> he was able to say it was -- he wanted to get back to a seventh century muslim empire which was borderless, which was extremely, you know, apparently attractive to many people. what i want to ask you about, paul, we've covered this so long, nine years, eight months, you know, since 9/11, trying to get our hands on him, how surprised are you this is where he ended up, abbottbad, a military, garrison city as reza describes it, not in the border of afghanistan as people talked about. >> there's increased surprise that officials had indicated he could be in pakistan proper, hinting elements have known where he was. the fact that he was killed in this settled area of pakistan in this compound, this million