to go into libya, and they think it's healthy for the europeans to see what it's like to lead. the u.s. is leading in iraq, the u.s. is leading in afghanistan, and the rest of the world knows if they're not going to pick up the slack, the u.s. is going to do it. the u.s. is saying, okay, you try to see what it's like to be a leader. >> so does this say something about the u.s.'s white house strategy on foreign policy, or is this really a result of a ripple effect? you have problems in one country in this region and it ripple to see its neighbor? >> they're trying to deal with so many issues, fred, at once and trying to juggle so many countries. it's kind of like that game at the carnival, whack-a-mole. where are the violations the strongest? where is the community? the u.s. is trying to ride that wave by trying to balance its