where they say he's not a serious candidate. and yet his poll ratings are strengthening all the time. he's very, very close to being the front-runner. >> yeah, look, first of all he's high in the polls now because he's kind of a new name out there, getting a lot of publicity. and the people who, as i was saying before that don't like obama are saying well, maybe if sarah palin doesn't run, maybe there's donald trump. but i think donald trump is going to be somebody who is going to dislike the process, because the kind of scrutiny that he's going to come under, his financial empire, not to mention flip-flopping on issues like abortion, which are very serious issues in the republican party and in the country, i think this is going to be somebody who is going to chafe under that kind of scrutiny that presidential candidates have to endure. it's not good enough to say i'm a successful businessman and i can run the country. there has to be more to it than that. >> it's easy to say you're running for president or