>> have they caught anyone? >> for? >> with what they're doing at the airports. if they caught someone, it would be in the headlines, wouldn't it? so they're doing all this and they haven't caught a soul. >> but also there have been, touch wood, there have been no further uses of planes as weapons. >> right. well, they're not going to do the same thing again. how stupid would that be? >> most terrorists dot same thing again and again. do you accept, though, that in your fury against the t sachlt -- >> i have no fury against them. i just want them to stop because they're violating the fourth amendment. >> i haven't made my point. in your complaint good them actually you identify why they have such a hard job, haven't you? because you yourself have no idea who they should be profiling. you just know they should be profiling. >> no. i just don't want to answer the question. because i have a court case pending and i don't like to talk about things that could affect the court case. >> okay. you're reserving your right to silence. >> because of my court case. >> an unusual position for jesse