you know, it's fame has -- they live very well. they're never sure of anything, but on the other side of it, i know all of them when they went to school went through some embarrassing terrible times, you know, being mocked and things like that, but, you know, as i said, they live comfortably. they've got -- i give them an allowance, which is not too much, and i think they're fine. >> you said that you've got eight children. there was a period where you were reluctant to admit to one of them, sarah, who is the girl that you gave up for adoption. >> yeah. >> but i think that's had a happy ending, hasn't it >> happy ending. >> happyish. well, we didn't -- her parents just recently passed on, you know. obviously i'm the biological father, and i'm still here, so the relationship broke down somewhat, you know, because she was -- she was a bit awkward, had a big chip on her should, we can blame her, but in the last couple of years we've