libya three, four months ago was a close ally of the united states, helping us fight al qaeda and radical jihadist elements. >> let me stop you there. it is one of these things that drives me nuts. i recall gadhafi being the butcher, and all of a sudden the u.n. almost unanimously decides he's not such a bad guy, let's make libya the head of the human rights commission at the u.n., that all of a sudden this year, no, he's a bad guy again, so bad that human rights, humanitarian issues will drive us in there with our military. i don't get this flip-flop back and forth. we don't pick good friends or we can't assess people for what they really are. >> it was a practical decision that was made in 2003, 2004 where we re-engaged with gadhafi, you know, he turned over a nuclear weapons program, crated it up and gave it to the united states. he did help us fight radical jihadist elements. he stemmed the flow of illegal