morality in foreign policy. this ain't moral, and it's also -- it extends bush's -- bush's record of totally, you know, grabbing executive power. if obama had a moral case to make, why didn't he make it to congress? >> that's fair. but i do think last night he tried to make the moral case -- >> afterwards, come on. >> let's be honest. you know what the obama doctrine is now? it's an interesting hybrid of humanitarian intervention meets realism. because he's talking about using american force both for national interest and using creative international force on behalf of morality. >> let's ban the use of the word doctrine. doctrines are after the fact -- >> obama's not talking about war. which is another part that stinks about this. it's like call a spade a spade. call a lipstick with pig whatever, you know, it's this is a war. you're dropping bombs, you're adding troops -- >> i'm with you. it's a war. he probably should have gone to congress, although there hasn't been a declaration of war since 1942. >> true.