forces not been involved, not been engaged that hundreds of thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of people, maybe even hundreds of thousands of people would have been massacred. >> but he can't really backtrack on what he said before this no-fly zone was implemented. that gadhafi must go. do you think he'll back away from that now or will that sentiment still be in his speech tonight? >> i think that sentiment will remain. and how the white house has been playing this is that there were two things that were going on here. first of all, there was the mission with the coalition forces to establish this no-fly zone in order to protect the innocent people of libya. but in addition to that, that the united states very much wants to see gadhafi go. how will they be able to push that? well, they believe that through the economic sanctions, perhaps even through those around gadhafi will apply pressure to him and eventually force him out. but that, you know, the timing as to when that will happen and how exactly it will happen remains up in the air. >> talking on the subject of