2011. we live in a time that if you don't have something in black and white, it's hearsay. we had nothing in black and white. there was no verbal communication. nothing to substantiate that you know what? this boy could have been put on the list. what angers us even more is the fact that you know what? how do i know or how does he know a heart hasn't come and gone? and the duress, he's been in the media forefront pleading for his life, anderson. he was on your show pleading for his life, pleading to the governor. who in their right mind would subject a family member so desperately ill to that level of scrutiny with the media and all if we knew he had coverage? >> what do you think went on here, kim? >> what i think went on here? i think someone needs to be held accountable.