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eliminated any opposition, eliminated any real democratic institutions of the country, that those need to be built up in order to have real free and fair elections. dow agree with that? >> well, in a sense i do. but also, you know, a lot of things have been said and you really don't know what you're capable of until you're put in it. the vice president said a couple of days ago he didn't feel egyptians were ready for democracy. this is again speculation, but it all depends on how people, if people will be able to create committees, to create the demands and create people who will be able to set up these policies and to create -- i don't think -- i don't know. i'm really -- i'm leaning more towards it, but i don't know it will take -- it will take us time. something nobody was preparing for or practicing for it, if you can put it that way. it was all kind of of a done deal in people's minds and there was this acceptance and political apathy toward it. so it will take time. but i feel in the past three weeks egyptians have changed so

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