is there -- is there a tv monitor they've put up to watch mubarak's speech or listening on cell phones or how are they going to hear it? >> well, a lot of people are listening to it on cell phones. the scene here, anderson, is a little bit different than when you left a couple days ago. the place here has become more sophisticat sophisticated. i haven't seen the big screen that was here before. there's one screen that sort of -- >> clearly having problems with fred's connection. him saying obviously that -- we have seen it become more entrenched, we've seen tents erected in the center of the square, people determined to stay there night after night, refusing to leave that hard-won ground. wolf, you talked about numbered elbarad elbaradei. ichb interviewed him a number of times. all along what he has been calling for not only is mubarak stepping down and he says the