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watches live pictures of this popular uprising, is the military in a position that it must usher in true change because it knows these demonstrators are determined at this point two and a half weeks into this movement? >> well, i think that's a question that we can't answer at this point. but in fact, let's keep in mind one thing. if president mubarak steps down, and of course, at point we don't know that for sure, it's only changing the head. the body, the state structure, it the ministry of the interior, which is massive, the army, it's a regime that has made egypt what it is today, not president mubarak by itself. and the army is very much part of that regime. in fact, in 1952, egypt had what later he call a revolution but it was a military coup d'etat. and since then all the presidents have been from the military. we're not talking about the

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