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whatever obama and others say, it's critical that privately and here i go back to mullen, gates and others, egypt and the united states have a close military to military relationship. the egyptian military has been training in the united states for decades. these guys know each other very well. they are on a first name basis. they are really, really close. so it's terribly important that the message be conveyed to the military that the results, the consequences of not doing the right thing will be catastrophic for the relationship between the united states and egypt and specifically for the military. it would end that close relationship, affect the 1.3 billion dollars in military aid, our bilateralle relations. it's better that this be in public because it is humiliating in public. privately it has to be said. >> stick around. we'll have more to talk about later in the show and we'll pick up these very themes.

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