>> well, you know, there was always the main topic of discussion when you would get journalists and others together is how strong is the regime? how long can it maintain its grip on power, and what's really shocked everybody, and you know, egyptians, foreigners alike, diplomats, anybody you think with, is how quickly all of this has happened. it's not even two weeks this situation has been developing. and we've seen that the government really has been shaken. there was a wide impression that egyptians over the years after many years of mubarak's rule had become politically indifferent and passive. and what we're seeing is that they've really sort of woken up and come back like a tornado. i mean, just the amount of political debate and discussion that's going on, not just in tahrir square, but among ordinary egyptians is stunning. >> certainly is.