but even if i had been the nominee instead of john mccain, i probably would have lost to barack obama too. >> you're a bit older now, a bit wiser. you know, when i study you as a potential candidate, you tick all the boxes, harvard mba, very hardworking, very rich, decent guy, religiously devout and a smart business guy. if i was a voter, you're there. there's no problem with you. i mean, you don't drink, you don't -- never taken drugs, you don't smoke, you're a family man. i mean, you're pretty perfect, aren't you? >> well, i think people would -- particularly my family, would disagree with that conclusion. >> i want to play you a clip now, and it relates to your mormon faith and i want you to watch this and we'll discuss it after. >> sure. >> i believe in my mormon faith and i endeavor to live by it. my faith is the faith of my fathers. i'll be true to them and to my beliefs. some believe that such a confession of my faith will sink my candidacy.