i wasn't just guessing at it. that's what i was being told by responsibile intelligence services. i think it's a combination of having taken very, very strong action, and continuing to take strong action. i also think it is they want to exceed the impact they had with september 11th. and therefore they haven't done a lot of the small attacks, which i think we're very fortunate that they decided to do that. and we've had some time now to prepare ourselves for all the things that they can do. >> on that day, you were having breakfast at the peninsula hotel here in manhattan. how did you hear what had happened? >> one of the police officers that was with me came up to my -- denny young, who was having breakfast with me, and bill simon was the third person, whispered in his ear. denny came over to me, got up from the breakfast table and said there is a terrible fire at the twin towers. a airplane has hit the north tower. we better get down there right away. when we first heard it, we didn't realize it was a terrorist attack or how bad it