parallel state in afghanistan is now very much on the smaller size. it is located in the tribal regions of pakistan. it's not the first murderous organization in history that was bureaucr bureaucratic. >> thank you so much for this conversation. you can read an excerpt from peter's primer on "all things al qaeda." later on in the show a revolutionary plan to cut health care costs by up to 50%. the case for treating the so-called super utilizers coming up. [ female announcer ] the only thing better than seafood