president david and i both worked for, ronald reagan. there was this myth that reagan and tip o'neill had a beer every night on the south lawn and resolved things. it was a very partisan period of time, too, but there was a gentle tone and the american public saw a couple of congenial irish guys that weren't yelling and screaming at each other, though behind the scenes it was tough. bob michael could go play golf with a tip o'neill, they were friends. they weren't enemies. they could fight on issues, danny rostenkowski would work out with dave stockman on the budgets. today there's no social life, so it's gotten more and more partisan on both sides. they don't know each other. all they're doing is dealing with rhetoric. you need to eliminate, where i'm hopeful is that the members of congress and the senate, which is really where it matters, speak with a softer tone and fight for issues, but speak with a softer tone. >> it's hard, though, maria, after the last campaign we have seen, the last election, you know a lot of folks getting elected with very tough tone. >> i think that's exactly right. and i think the other thing that is a reality today, anderson, that wasn't even ten or maybe