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could see how -- what she feels about this. it's obviously not the right time to ask. we can't. and we tried to toalk to her staff about it today, but they said they'd have to do more research and look into it and then get back to us. >> this is a debate we have every time there's an incident like this. going back to the question of -- of buying this ammunition, my understanding is that the gunman went to a walmart and was -- and a sales person refused to sell him any ammunition because his behavior was weird. then he went to another walmart and got what he needed. where in there was there -- was there ever a thought -- does anyone talk to the walmart sales person, the first one, and did that person try to notify authorities that this fellow was odd and trying to buy ammunition? >> you know, as that information was first reported by other news organizations, now turns out that that was incorrect. what happened was -- that we have heard on background is that this person -- that he came in

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