and it felt like i lived here for years after three days. >> larry: are you a designer by nature? >> yeah, i think so. i think so. >> larry: do you think if you didn't have all this talent, you'd have been a designer? >> probably, yeah. i was once going to be a hat designer when i was young, when i made rounds as an actress and couldn't get any work. >> larry: why do you like it so much? >> designing? >> larry: yeah. >> well, composition and graphics and order, symmetry, appeal to me. they satisfy my mind. my eyes. my heart. i don't know. maybe it's because my mother, you know, we lived with slip covers out of plastic.