crux of the case. i think that's the big question mark that created so much support for these sisters. you know, they were tried by a jury, and the governor was on a civil rights activist radio show last night talking about that very question. you know, why did they get the sentence? he called it an unusually long sentence. i think that's interesting for a conservative republican governor to make that kind of statement. even he thought that it didn't quite add up. >> marty have. >> we should point out this is not a pardon. this is that the governor intervened and suspended their sentences, and his explanation is not because of the severity of the time they were given. he's giving it on humanitarian reasons he claims or medical reasons, and that is that the get out of jail free card here is a kidney and if gladys gives the kidney to jamie they can get out of jail.