you don't meet each other. my wife and me tried to have this family live together, i don't know how you say that in english. what for you need a big space? they were surprised my house was not bigger, bigger than this. and my wife's house was bigger than our house, and i don't think that -- i don't have any need to have something bigger. >> larry: what is your goal? to make money? >> it's not the money, the goal. the goal is to make companies grow, develop, and be competitive, and be in different areas, and be very efficient. to have a great human team