it's a statement of honesty. i think you would have probably been dealing with me on another level, on the dark side. to tell you the truth. i really do. i'm just -- i'm a guy -- >> larry: you mean you might have been a criminal? >> you know what, i don't know. there's a difference between famous and infamous. >> larry: thin line sometimes. >> yes it is. and i'm not sure, because i want to be a representative of my mom and dad. but i live on the dark side. i just like it. billy joel talks about that, too, that he lives his life with a dark side. >> larry: does the dark side ever come out? >> i think in music it does. i like that world. i like -- you know, there's a great line in the best little whorehouse in texas. when he says i'm in a bad mood and i would like to enjoy it for a little while. that's what you do with music, you get in that dark thing and write that dark side. >> larry: demons -- garth brooks and president obama. next. [ s. greenlee ] i would love to have been a musician