they hear it. i think that's important, too. so the whole thing comes out as a piece. i want it as a piece, they won't. they won't cut it up. and so my thing is, when they do album-only and they do variable pricing -- they shouldn't tell me what i'm going to price it. i'm going to tell them and they're going to sell it and if somebody wants it, they do, if they don't, they don't. that's a big change in business from retail to digital retail. >> larry: are you very involved in the business end of your business? >> yeah, i think so. >> larry: stay on top of it. >> you put your faith in your people. bob dole, kerry o 'neill, rusty jones are the three guys that we've been together since day one. and they do business, law, management. and it's important. you listen to them. but at the end of the day, it is your decision. >> larry: you have a great pr person, too. >> nancy. i would put up against anyone. because it's very rare you find people like this. nancy is all heart and soul. god help you if you cross her, though. >> larry: what's her full name? >> nancy seltzer?