going on back then. that's 400 years ago what was being interpreted. there's a lot of interpretations of the play. to me, i think there is anti-semitism in the play, of course. but i also think shylock is -- it's also a blatant cry against prejudice in some ways when you think of what they do to this person because he's a jew. and how he reacts to it. and what he's become. what he is made into. >> so before you play him, do you think about it a lot? do you think about how i'm going to -- how i view him? do you have to like him? >> well, yeah. i mean you know, you don't -- first of all you think of anybody you are playing as a human being. and what his needs are. what drives him. why he is where he is and what he's doing. these are the things you focus on. and in that point of view, you