i could tell by the way he was moving. and he went to the ground. to the floor. i saw his arm come up and he was just firing wildly then. >> did he say anything before he shot himself? >> no, sir. not that i remember. i don't remember him saying anything. >> that must have taken you by surprise. >> exactly. you know, i got up then, i walked down to where he was laying, it was obviously a serious wound, i knew he was dead then. i took the gun out of his hand and threw it to the right and then i just stood there. it was kind of like being in a wind tunnel. i couldn't hear anything. it was just like everything was in slow motion at that point right then. >> at that point did he -- you must have been concerned that folks behind the desk, some of the school board members had been hit or at that point did you realize none of them had been? >> it seemed like i stood there several seconds and then the superintendant stood up and the board attorney stood up, franklin harrison. when they stood up, i realized they were alive and that's when