for big. that's how big this is, because it's $858 billion. that's more than the t.a.r.p. bank bailout. that's more than the obama stimulus package. and the highest estimate i found on jobs is that it will create 2.2 million jobs. we need every one of them. that's $390,000 a job, though, glor gloria. >> should he have held out longer? >> of course. he had until december 31st at least. i have more faith in barack obama than barack obama does. if he went out and campaigned for his ideas and making those of us who are blessed pay a little more he could have won the fight. >> i'm not sure he should have held out longer. he might have started earlier on dealing with the tax issues before even the fall, maybe he should have started last spring or whatever. when you look at the additional things that the president got in this bill, when you talk about the earned investment tax credit, tuition tax credit, all kinds of things, the 2% payroll