erick was focusing on unemployment numbers -- percentage. growth rate according to the world bank 3.34% for '92. 3.62 in 2000 and dipping below in the bush years. peaked in 2005 at 3.65, then down to the low point in 2008 obviously with the economy shrinking half percent. stock market dow rose about 7,000 points during the clinton presidency, dropped 2,000 during the course of the bush years though again timing and 9/11 attacks also played a part. still ahead another tragedy related to bernie madoff. his son who turned in his father two years ago hanged himself in new york two years to the day his dad was arrested. also in crime and punishment, is he a grieving husband unjustly prosecuted for a second time or murderer who drowned his new bride while scuba diving in australia? the latest. gecko: are you ready for your talk, sir?