and we put the tools and materials and expenses to move and to travel. >> larry: what about art? you're a vast collector of art. you're building an extraordinary museum named after your wife. it will open at the end of january. were you always a collector? >> well, not always. my wife was very sense itive to art, very sensitive to everything, especially with art. when we go anywhere, honeymoon in '66 we bent went to europe. she stayed looking something. i said, i'll participate, too, because she was feeling and looking and very deep. and then i bought the collection of art of mexican art, colonial art. and after that i begin to look in mexico, there were not museums with international art.