and dust. it became too dangerous to fly the helicopter over there. they had to consider doing a video conferencing call. there were some technical problems. they had a 15-minute call. we don't have a readout on what was said during that conversation. they did talk by phone. >> dan lothian from the white house, dan, thank you. next, unploit numbers going the wrong way. next on reporter roulette, poppy, why the jump in unemployment? >> reporter: it is very interesting. we saw the unemployment rate jump up to 9.8%. most thought it would stay at 9.6%. what happened, we had much fewer jobs last november than we thought. the reality is we saw 39,000 jobs were added. the marquette hket had a very n reaction to that. somehow the market ended up higher. it showed us 15 million plus americans now unemployed. about 6 million of them now