okay. so we are being literal. >> i'm not saying a word. >> they are shared jewels now. >> you act like a married couple but you are not. >> that's the first question i have for you, happily unmarried for 25 years. >> 7. don't take those last two away from me. they were tough. >> my goodness, so what is the secret -- >> there is no secret. >> there is. and i'll tell you. >> what's the secret? >> the secret is of having shannon be the teacher to all of the women on earth about how to keep a relationship interesting, sex see, and forever changing. >> you just decided not to get married? but why not? >> the marriage part is not conventional but everything else is conventional. >> increasingly conventional if you look at society out there. >> i guess. i don't plan on defending that part of it. >> were your kids rocker kids -- >> the rocker kids are fine but,