know, it's like a ray of sunshine. she just always had a smile. she had a positive thing to say. and you know, you're going to miss that. >> you know what i like about the people, many folks from the golden age of television, is that they don't mind being known by the names of their characters. many of the younger people don't want to be, you know, typecast or whatever. you don't mind being called wally. you know, people who are in g l gilligan don't mind being called mary ann or the professor or whatever. she did not mind being called june. >> she was very, very proud of being june cleaver. there's no doubt about it. she -- many times she said the best thing that ever happened for me, best thing in my life, and she really meant it. you know, she was -- she was just happy as a lark being recognized as america's mom. which is great. you know? i don't -- as i grow older i don't mind being called wally. for a while it was hard, you know, when a lot younger and trying to, you know, get myni a