unit cohesiveness and our effective military. >> so if the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff says he believes gays should be allowed to serve in the military, would that be good enough for you? >> if all four heads -- if the heads of all four branches of the military said that it would be up to them not me as a u.s. north to impose my social agenda whether for or against it. >> what about that? what if the chairman said we'll do whatever the commander in chief tells us to do but we don't think it's a good idea because of thee issues that miss o'donnell raises, unit cohesion and those other issues? what would you say then? >> one of my real heroes is harry truman. ari truman made a very difficult decision to compel the racial integration of the united states armed forces at a point when most of the leadership, most of the generals said for exactly the same sorts of reason, unit cohesion we should not have a