facts. and what strikes me about this is that lou dobbs did not get as much criticism as he deserved when he was still on the air on cnn about constantly and repeatedly giving wrong information. the statistics about the number of illegals in our prisons, the statistics about alleged statistics about illegals bringing various epidemics and diseases across the border, he promoted the story of the north american union and changing our currency, all wildly irresponsible. here it appears what happened, his wording was weasel words. he never may have hired an illegal and no company that he owns may have hired an illegal but companies that he employed who did hire illegals as many gardening companies and horse care companies apparently do. so he ought to just acknowledge that, and then go on. >> let me jump in with kelley goff. macdonald's point, dobbs once