colonel tom, the head of beat havl sciences department at west point and colonel, you're an expert on the psychological impacts of life and death situations. you actually say that parallels can be drawn between the experiences of the chilean miners and soldiers coming back from active duty? >> that's absolutely true. our soldier whose come back from active duty have a time being when they have to reintegrate with their families and the process of reintegration we anticipate these miners will undergo will have many parallels between that and soldiers. >> i've talked to some soldiers that have come back from iraq ath afghanistan, and all of a sudden they're tanked with taking out the garbage and things like that. after what they've been through, everything else, i imagine, is going to seem pretty trivial to them? >> well it could. and the process of their reintegration and moving forward into the bright futures that they have will take some time.